No Apologies
There has been a lot of talk about the interview I did on HBO's Real Sports. I have no apologies. I was asked a variety of questions and I answered them. The fact that the producers and publicists at HBO decided to focus on those answers that related to race shows that it remains a hot topic in society today. Let me address some feedback... First, the interview took place in August before the season started so for those who think I "played the race card" because we are 0-2 are dead wrong. I did not say that Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Carson Palmer are not criticized when they don't play well. They have been criticized when they throw interceptions, when the throw incompletions, and when their teams don't win. They are criticized and so is every other quarterback for that matter. And that type of criticism may, in fact, be warranted. But that's not the type of criticism that we discussed. Black quarterbacks have to deal with different things than white quarterbacks. If you don't think that's true than you are na?ve. Peyton, Tom and Carson to name a few, have never been asked what it's like to be a white quarterback. They probably have not been told that they should have scrambled more. I bet Fran Tarkenton, Steve Young, Jake Plummer, and Doug Flutie have never been told by a member of any racial consciousness organization that they don't play the quarterback position white enough. I would love to live in a world where race is not an issue. But it is. I did not ask HBO to interview me but I did consent. I did not bring up the topic of race but I didn't back down from it either. This interview was supposed to be about how my career has been surrounded by controversy and how my upbringing has shaped the way I have dealt with it. Unfortunately, the interview itself has created yet another controversy. All I did was answer the questions that were asked of me honestly and truthfully. I had no agenda. The people of Philadelphia have criticized my coach for not answering questions. Now I'm criticized for answering questions. I understand if people have a different opinion or view point than I do, I really do. I think if there is one thing I understand better than most people - it's okay to be different.



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Truth4sho said September 20, 2007
I just say it's not only the media that treats Black QB's that way. I say Warren Moon would have even more stats and perhaps a few Championships if he was surrounded with "hands" to help him.
I say Steve McNair being locked out would NEVER happen to a franchise White QB, and I also say the same way the Eagles got Reno in 24hours , and just got J.R back on the team in 12 hours means they can get off thier collective @sses and get you some decent recievers to catch a ball, shake a defender and take a freakin hit.
The Organizations trea Black QB's in another light than White QB's , they get the tale, All day !!! I'm talkin Holt & Bruce, Chad and Huz-a-ma call it , Moss , Harrison and everything else. But that's not for you to deal with. We gonna take up that fight.
Holla
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whatever replied September 20, 2007
Actually McNabb has faired pretty well within the organization. I think he's the highest paid player. His contract was competitive when he signed it. His line hasn't been terrible. His defense has helped him more than it hurt him. Again, he had T.O. at one time (with a healthy Westbrook no less).
He's probably right about the media, etc. The argument that he never had players around him doesn't really fly though - they just haven't been on offense. Look at Manning, Bulger and Palmer for instance. Do any of them ever had a decent defense? Donovan, meanwhile, has always had a decent/great defense behind him. That's probably part of the reason they pick up a Kevin Curtis instead of a Randy Moss. They probably also anticipated Donovan being 100%, which is huge. A healthy McNabb is like a quarterback with extra running back on the field. It's not a great situation for him to be in, especially when he gets hurt. Because they do expect him to shoulder more of the load offensively. At the same time, his defense isn't giving up 51 points to the Browns and Derek Anderson. It's all a trade off.
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FanProphet replied September 20, 2007
It's a true statement so I'll use this as an example....the point guard position with Steve Nash and Jason Kidd. Whenever Nash does something brilliant it's because he's smart. When Kidd does something brilliant it's because of his athletic ability and strength. Magic Johnson was never smart but " saw the floor well" on the other hand, Larry Bird was a smart player. It never had anything to do with how Bird shot "lights out" and played the game light years ahead of others, it was "Bird is such a smart player". It's the media who focuses on that shit and they do it intentionally. If you guys have ever really listened sportscasters you will here this. if not, make sure you do.
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otis29 replied September 20, 2007
I'm thinking maybe his comments hit a bit too close to home for you.
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mstearne replied September 20, 2007
So you're saying it exists in the world today so you agree with Donovan. You just don't want him to be able to say what you see and believe to be true.
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rainwave23 said September 20, 2007
I agree with you 100%. I say this as a white male in his 20's and I can cleary see the same thing you see. Remember though, for every one person that criticizes you, there are 10 that support you. We Eagles fans do appreciate everything you've done for the city and the organization. You have been my favorite player since you were at Syracuse. You have my unconditional support. There are many that feel the same way. I hope that you don't feel that the majority of Eagles fans don't support you or want you gone. I hope you stay with the Eagles and can retire here after playing 8-10 more years, bringing Super Bowls here. If not, and you play elsewhere, I will support you there as well.
I look forward to you turning the season around starting this week. Keep your head up. You guys have been 0-2 before, and went deep into the playoffs. I have faith you can do the same this year.
My email is rain23wave@hotmail.com if you'd like to contact me personally.
Sincerely,
Mike M
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tonedeft said September 20, 2007
People want you to scramble because it brings such a dynamic addition to what you can already do. Now (before your injury) when you scramble, it seems like the DBs don't bite anymore because they don't believe that you are going to run. You are just going to try to buy time to throw it. Before, they didn't know what to do. If they stayed with the receiver you broke off on a huge run. If they came in after you, you threw to the receiver he just left open. That's why we miss you running. I grew up watching Randall Cunningham and marveled over his athletic ability at QB and in your first few years when you could see how you were picking things up, I kept thinking about how good you would be having that skill Cunningham had on top of having a cannon arm and the understanding of the defense. ..but you started resenting that people wanted you to run because you felt that was a stereotype of a Black QB. Who cares what people think. The only people that matter are the defense and you had them completely confused. Don't get me wrong, I still believe that you are an elite QB even without that aspect, but it was something that only you had.
FanProphet replied September 20, 2007
This is exactly what I mean. It had nothing to do with Cunningham being smart and setting up defenses so he could make that play. And what's even worse, the media used to criticize him for doing that.
Tone, don't get me wrong I'm not criticizing this comment, and by far I think it's the most intelligent one I've seen thus far. Sure, it would be nice if Donovan played the game the way he wants to and knows how to, and not the way others want him to play. Yes, Donovan's arsenal would be tremendous if he took what the defense gave him.
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tonedeft said September 20, 2007
I have no doubt the slump you are in is only temporary and you will get it fixed. And we realize it's not all on you either. Someone needs to teach your receivers how to catch too.
Smedley said September 20, 2007
I think different QBs are judged based on their strengths and weaknesses. QBs that show they can run the ball well are expected to do so, because of what it brings to the team. Even Steve Young.
You have your opinions and I can accept that, although I disagree with your premise.
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rooney1t said September 20, 2007
From a QB perspective...your mechanics are not good. You do not set your feet; You are releasing the ball too soon in the arc when you miss high and releasing the ball too late in the arc when you throw low. From a mechanical perspective...your biggest weakness is that you do not release the ball on time.
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whatever replied September 20, 2007
I'm also not sure how you can argue that the owner of a professional sports team is responsible for problems of an entire city. Don't get me wrong, not having a champion for who knows how long probably isn't great for the fans, but how do the Eagles, who have actually been playing well for several years, have anything to do with how poorly the city is run?
As far as the environment in the NFL goes, I'd have side with the players.
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burnseyjp said September 20, 2007
It is week 2! The Eagles are famous for starting slow and if you really would like to see them win I don't see how booing during the first quarter of a game can help. Doesn't anyone think that the Skins would feed off of that? Write your messages, call your radio shows, but if playing in Philly is supposed to be a home field advantage....make it one!
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birchmax said September 20, 2007
How do we help Don... here goes...
I have notice when watching the films over the past few years a noticable change in the way Don throws the ball and how he stands. What has happened is simple he got hurt, screws with his flex, he is flexing more upper body than leg hip. He beefed up on the lbs. and muscle mass. Wrong way.. He needs to drop 30lbs, no weight lifting and do all cardio,YOGA and stretching. Seriously, he will be great again if he went in this direction. Watching the films over the years as he has gotten more upper body strenght he over compensates for his natural leg hip movement which allowed him to be more accurate. Watch him throw the ball wobbly and down. Upper body strenght is important but to what degree. Remeber Tiger Woods got all screwed up a few years ago when he pumped to much. He completely threw off his game. If someone in the eagles organization would get hime to lose weight and strech his ass off he would get back to a more accurate QB. Fly Eagles fly..........................
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cohiba said September 20, 2007
As far as I can tell the NFL is a meritocracy. One makes the team based on their ability to play, not the color of their skin. The same goes for baseball, a sport in which size is not as important. There are a lot of Japanese men playing in the MLB but I can't think of any in the NFL. My point is that because the percentage of African Americans playing in the NFL so far exceeds their percentage of the population, one can only assume that on average, African Americans are better foorball players than whites. As a white man, I have no problem acknowledging what is so obviously a fact.
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funkediva said September 20, 2007
DM5 #1 fan in Mississippi
PotsNPans said September 20, 2007
I'm pumped to watch you pick apart detroit - even if it is in those god awful yellow jerseys. I'll bleed blue and yellow for one weekend i guess.
www.poorsportsblog.blogspot.com
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Rudeboy1086 said September 20, 2007
i think the media is run by satan..lol
kingjutt said September 20, 2007
Management has put the guy in a bad position. McNabb aint perfect. He has had his screw ups too but he has been amazing in comparison to any other QB; especially without his weapons.
kingjutt said September 20, 2007
You are a good dude so you don't want to sell people out by saying that but the Coach/GM/ and Heckert are doing you a diservice by not giving you a stud receiver. YOU NEED A BIG TIME RECEIVER LIKE ALL OF THE OTHER TOP QB's. How long are you supposed to will it on you own? You can't. TO was a NUT. But you saw how good you were with him. Management needs to be blasted. They put you in horrible situations. Horrible. That said I don;t feel bad for millionaires so it is what it is but you need to have a talk with the guys upstairs making the calls. YOU ARE BEING SET UP TO FAIL
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Iggleman said September 20, 2007
So now he reaches the highest level and looks to be a QB. The thing is he has never been molded into a great QB but he is instead a great athlete playing QB. Is this his fault; hell no. Suddenly the expectations are high and he has not been allowed to develop the skills necessary to succeed at the highest level because he has faced too much pressure to use his athletic ability to win.
I think I know what you are saying but I certainly can't be sure. This is what I believe to be true.
I am a life long Eagles fan and one who appreciates all that you have accomplished. I think you have done a great job with the talent that has surrounded you. I also know that if you had a game breaking wide receiver (for more than 1 year), you would already have the ring you deserve!
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teddy7575 said September 20, 2007
Good luck in whatever city you in up in next year and enjoy your Superbowl victory with that team!
(I'm thinking Chi-town). and if the fans here really think Kolb is going to get us that Lombardi trophy that better wake up.
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Eagles2007 said September 20, 2007
What we'll get will be similar to what we received last season without McNabb. We'll get playoff appearances, winning seasons, and a QB who isn't hyper-sensitive. A QB who doesn't need his Dad or Mom to tuck him in at night after reading him a nice fairy tale before bedtime. : )
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Live4Eagles said September 20, 2007
The sports writers in Philly love to stir up trouble. Plus, I think a lot of Eagles fans want to win now at any cost and the way they sometimes behave, such as booing our own team, is inappropriate. I think a lot of the heat you feel has more to do with the fans' intense desire to win more than anything else.
Please keep in mind that many of us really do respect and value what you've done for our Eagles. Anyone who can remember what it was like before you were drafted, knows how you played a big part in turning this team around. Recently, the fans overwhelmingly voted for you as our "75th Anniversary Quarterback" so most of us fans do recognize that you are a QB. I've always admired the way you play on the field, as well as, the way you always conduct yourself with dignity off the field. Try to ignore the sportswriters comments and the negative comments that come from some fans. Most Eagles fans love you, support you, and really do appreciate what you've done for our team.
sumfingidiot said September 20, 2007
Dude, say whatever the hell you want to say. You're not some show-boat jackoff like certain wide receivers in the NFL. You're a helluva a QB, and I do mean a passer, not a runner. :)
Say it with gusto, man. You're the star.
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KoyDetmer4MVP said September 20, 2007
It's not like we are all engrained with expectations of each race when we are born, we simply have those thoughts hammered into our head by the people that surround us (whether it be family, schoolmates or co-workers) throughout our upbringings. And, as controversial as your answers may seem now, they are promoting healthy (at least I hope its healthy) discussion that might lead certain people to see things more clearly as they go through their lives. So I thank you for that.
If anybody really gets to the heart of the matter that you brought up, nobody can deny the truth behind it. The current state of the media is largely behind this. This is a large part of the reason I've grown sick of the media. I earned a college degree in Radio/Television/Film and as I got ready to graduate, I realized how sick and twisted the media world is and that it's something I don't want to be a part of. And this latest "story" is another reason why.
Now I have a degree that I don't want to use at all and life decisions to figure out but I'm so proud that I'm not allowing myself to go into such a terrible field that only fuels stereotypes and the dehumanizing of celebrities. The reason I enjoy this blog that you've created so much is that it makes you human again, after the media and talk radio has spent so much time trying to make you seem like an object or something that we should expect something out of.
Just keep being yourself, Don. I look forward to seeing the good things you could do for this world from your position after your football career has ended (hopefully a long time from now and still in Philadelphia). You're a great human being, which is much more important than being a great football player.
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calidave28 said September 20, 2007
Donovan just expressed his perspective in a reasonable manner and definitely has nothing to apologize for. In fact, I would say well done Mr. McNabb, you showed honesty and courage - two virtues that men need to display more often.
eaglesfanbig5 said September 20, 2007
Keep your head up. I have your back. The media is just trying to make a story out of nothing. I just wish that one day people would quit going after the good people in our society and focus on stopping the bad people. I'm your guy through and through and have no concerns about this team. Keep playing strong and you will lead us to the big dance.
-Chris
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PaulN420 said September 20, 2007
He's right - black quarterbacks get scrutinized in ways that white quarterbacks don't. It's not always fair, but that's life. Should Donovan be quiet about it? Should he be so politically correct that he can't state the obvious? I don't think so. He's got my support.
slickster said September 20, 2007
Let McNabb play. If HBO wants to stir up trouble, go after the drug users!
fifawc2006 said September 20, 2007
I have always said that if I had kids and I needed a professional athlete for a babysitter, there would be one guy I'd want and that is you. You earned that from the way you carry yourself. I just pray that we can one day FINALLY move past race as a reason for anything.
When I have kids, I hope you're available. :)
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wgreason said September 20, 2007
You are a man of great character and leadership. You are the reason I watch the NFL most Sundays. Your insight and knowledge about how African Americans are perceived and misunderstood (as quarterbacks and as people) inspire me to continue doing my own work to improve race relations.
Thank you for having the courage to stand up and make your voice heard. In a society where school segregation is now legal, state attorneys overcharge black youth with felonies, and black face parties multiply on college campuses, you have shed light on the expanding racism among all Americans.
Keep playing hard, keep speaking truth, and you will always have my respect.
Dr. Walter Greason, Ph.D.
www.myspace.com/urbanhistorian
TWils000 said September 20, 2007
Anyway in addition to being the best Quarterback in Eagles history, thanks for being a man - you'll probably never know the good that you are doing.
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Dk1028 said September 20, 2007
DONOVAN, BRO I LOVE THE COWBOYS, BUT RIGHT NOW THIS AINT ABOUT SPORTS, ITS ABOUT BEING A MAN!!! A BLACK MAN IN A WHITE SOCIETY I.E THE JEANA 6(WHICH IS A BUNCH OF BULL)GOOGLE IT...... BUT THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH FOR TELLING IT LIKE IT IS BRO....A MAN COULD ALMOST GO CRAZY IN THIS WORLD TODAY, PEOPLE ON THE NEWS ACT LIKE THERE ISNT A WAR GOING ON AND BUSH ISNT TRYING TO BE A DICTATOR....THEY ACT LIKE THERE ARENT POOR AZZ PEOPLE IN THE U.S RIGHT NOW, FORGET IRAQ....AND OH YEAH REMEMBER KATRINA......THEY ACT LIKE WE DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON, AND YOU HIT THE NAIL ON POINT BRO....I KNOW IM NOT CRAZY.....IM IN COLLEGE, I WORK AT A GREAT JOB, I HAVE WHITE FRIENDS AS WELL AS BLACK FRIENDS BUT ASK ME HOW MANY TIMES WHEN THEY THOUGHT I WASNT LISTENING I HEARD THE
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tamahouse said September 20, 2007
I'm not writing to defend your comments, to say they are either appropriate or not appropriate, but I will say that from my experience, what happens in the NFL in terms of organizational hierarchy is a microcosm of what happens in life.
A lot of opinions and stereotypes are shed behind closed doors, and this is a mere fact.
I will give you one example. I was in the elevator on a cruise in the Caribbean â€" people from all over the US were on this cruise. A gentleman was wearing a Titan's AFC Championship shirt. Another gentleman stated he too was from Tennessee and said we won't win a Super Bowl with his "kind" at QB. This was back in 2003 or so and Steve McNair was at the helm. This man went as far as to say that he doesn't have the smarts to lead this team. Now, I'm from the east coast, and how I interpret "his kind", means non-white. To me, this man's subtle reference is indicative of the thought process of many people. I can't determine if this is racism or not racism, an ignorant generalizations or not, or just regional opinion but its stuff I hear.
The gentleman with the Titan shirt, albeit maybe uncomfortable with the second man's remarks, agreed to some extent.
That's all I have to say. This was my experience with such a topic. One of many in terms of people's stereotypes, but an exact opinion on this particular issue. -- end
By the way Donovan, does Syracuse even have a football team anymore..... good luck BC'er 93
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eeeeek said September 20, 2007
You are correct in what you are saying...but we can see through it...i sense that you are done with philly and you are very cunningly bringing this stuff up to pave a smooth transition out...all I can say is..DON'T Do it. Let Andy father Klob somewhere else....Philly doesn't need either one of them and they can let Tom H. be the mother. Don't the org get in you way...Make some noise about not having a #1 reciever. Leave the Black QB thing....don't answer the question...let it go...just let go and get you knee healthy. Do Do IT...We love ya and want ya stay.
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Timsaunt said September 20, 2007
McNabb has every right to answer the questions, feel what he feels and say it like he sees it. To me,
he is a great quarterback for the Phila Eagles and a great person. He has always had my respect and enthusiasm as a player and he has certainly earned our respect. Passionate Phila Fans need to stop analyzing him and start being a fan win or lose. If those noisy fans knew anything they would be coaching or playing and not criticizing our Philadelphia Eagles. It's so unproductive to make our team feel unsupported by their fans because they lost two games or gave an interview (which I found to be enlightening). Mr. McNabb I will be routing for you all season win or lose because I am a faithful Phila Sports fan.
super5forever said September 20, 2007
you should never have to apologize for your beliefs and your feelings as long as they are true feelings. i listened to a lot of shows and feel the media must be feeling a little guilty because they see the truth in what you say. i personally do not think race is an issue although i am white, living in a white world more or less. There are 11 men on the field for each and every play and i agree thay expect some of the quarterbacks to carry the team. Stay postive. This too shall pass. the good lord only gives all of us what we can handle. i sometimes say he is a poor judge of character but oh well, i am still here. as far as people wishing they could walk in your shoes, it might be fun to see what they would do if they were at their home field and hear the boos raining down. Philadelphia is not a great place to play and there is no home field advantage when your fans are firing up the opposing team with their classlessness. Donovan i truly admire the way you handle things and think you are one of the true role models for our youth. Stay yourself. On another note, you were kind enough to invite my Chad to your football camp the last two years. Chad is in a wheelchair and can not talk or speak but his day was truly made when he got to talk to you. You could have turned that into a big medial hype but you didn't. Like i said stay yourself and hope to see you in Phila for years to come,. Remember that which doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.
Chris and Chad
Iggles84 said September 20, 2007
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!
joyces replied September 21, 2007
pgall33 said September 20, 2007
First, I know you are the best QB the Eagles can put on the field. I know you have "it". I am 27 and have lived through the WORST Eagles football teams and never got exposed to great consistent football until you came along. I want to thank you for the last 5 awesome years.
As far as 0-2, that's football. Not all the balls are caught, not all the passes perfect, not all the punts waived fair (hehe). The game can easily come down to a few plays, and those 4-5 plays the last two weeks went the other way. Oh well, season isn't over, keep truckin.
As far as this black/white stuff, its clear thats wasn't the purpose of the interview and its a shame it is such a prominent topic. I'm a skinny white dude from the burbs and never thought of you as a black QB until that Rush Limbaugh crap. I'm glad I don't operate like that. If you are small enough to judge someone by the color of their skin, then you're too ignorant to have a conversation with. Keep your head up and ignore (if you can) the relentless media. All of Philly has your back!
Birdbatty said September 20, 2007
Unfortunately, HBO felt the best way to sell their show was taking your honest assessment out of context and creating controversy where there was none. It's rather commonplace for media to behave in such a manner and it should make us uneasy about anything they say, do, or sell.
Thanks for everything you have done for our Eagles and the NFL. I look forward to watching you lead our guys deep into the playoffs once again.
Ryan13 said September 20, 2007
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suziep713 said September 20, 2007
Much love from Houston, Texas!!!!!!!!!!!!!
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!
teamddb said September 20, 2007
All that being said, amongst the controversy you are being praised for your stance and have even thrusted yourself into the lead for "The Chad" award at www.frombangtoblog.blogspot.com. Congrats!
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Kelspeed said September 20, 2007
Pathetic how much weight the pigment of a person's skin holds in day to day subjects and decisions.
teaman said September 20, 2007
Even if you, and the Eagles, had won the Super Bowl over the Cheating Pats, you would still be getting criticized. It's is just the nature of your position. All 53 players and coaches have to be on the same page to win. For the last 2 1/2 years you all have been on different chapters. The Eagles would not have won has many games has they have over the last 8 years if not for YOU. With that said, You need to become a better LEADER, between the lines, and stop looking over your shoulder. YOU are QB #1.
AnotherDDBer said September 20, 2007
Just keeping it real chief.
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BroncosFan said September 20, 2007
Accuracy: NcNabb: 58.1%, Young 64.3%, Tark 57%, Elway 56.9%, Flutie 54.7%
Passer Rating: NcNabb: 84.8, Young 96.8, Tark 80.4%, Elway 79.9, Flutie 76.3
So, in essence, quit using the race card and play the game. Having lived in Denver during the Elway years, he took so much heat from the Media. Plummer, even when we went 8 games without a pick, everyone was saying, "just wait until he throws one. He'll do it because he is not accurate and he makes mistakes. You have a better passer rating and completion ratio than 2 HOF qb's. Of course they played more seasons but you have done well. Tired of the race card being used when the stats don't prove it. Maybe the Pats cheated on you also to win the SB. If you will, then people will forget about this issue. If not, then people will not bother to remember what you have accomplished but rather you chose to play the race card when you scolded Rush Limbaugh for using it.
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philtheduck said September 20, 2007
When you make comments like this - it makes you sound like small child who is speaking before he thinks.
You are a grown man who is above this type of talk.
WIN and things will be fine.
Philly Fans are all about "what have you done lately" - accept it and move on.
macc10 replied September 21, 2007
TammyinAtlanta said September 20, 2007
I love the honesty, nobody can tell your story the way you can.
Hallellujah, tell it like it is.
Tammy in Atlanta
mcbradys said September 20, 2007
Taadow said September 20, 2007
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PhillyEagleFan said September 20, 2007
I'm not a member of the media, nor am I a football player, but I am a huge football, specifically and Eagles, fan. I'm also a huge fan of yours in particular. Simply from a standpoint of being on the outside looking in, I can see the truth in your comments. I personally commend you for your honesty in your answers in that interview. The media wants to turn this into a "controversy," when the fact is everyone knows that the controversy isn't in what you said, rather the fact that what you said IS true. For what it's worth, you will always have the support of myself and all of the fans out there. You know that Philly fans are tough, but don't think for a second that they don't appreciate your heart as well as your contributions to this team. Good luck this season, I'll be cheering for every play!
TheyCallMeT said September 20, 2007
Donovan keep doin you. Keep givin it your all and the W's will come... Get back to that one game at a time thinking and win yourself a SB.
sstevens said September 20, 2007
Eagles2007 said September 20, 2007
McNabb was less than eloquent yesterday as he tried to explain his position. Waffling between amusement, confusion and annoyance, he tried over and over again to explain his point, but, at times, seemed to contradict himself. At one point, McNabb said: "It's about winning football games here. It doesn't matter if you're black, white red, green or yellow. It's about winning football games."
Only minutes earlier he had said: "It's a lot different. The questions we have to answer. You wouldn't ask anybody else the questions we get asked. It's reality."
Phil Sheridan - Sports writer - Philadelphia Inquirer
The questions directed at McNabb were understandable: Aren't other quarterbacks criticized, too? What specific criticisms do you think are directed at you because you're African American? Do you regret saying what you did on HBO?
The problem with the questions was that they largely missed the point. Unfortunately, so did most of McNabb's answers. He wasn't able to clarify or defend his claims any better than he did in the original interview with HBO's James Brown.
Paul Domowitch - Philadelphia Daily News
THE CHIP on Donovan McNabb's shoulder always is there, held firmly in place by loving but misguided parents who long ago convinced their son that most white people aren't all that much different from those scum-sucking bigots who broke into the family's suburban home years ago and punched holes in their walls, urinated on their carpets and spray-painted the N-word on the side of their house.
Be careful, son, they warned. They are trying to hurt you. They are trying to bring you down. Because you're talented and rich and successful. Because you're black.
Judging from his curious comments in a taped interview on HBO's "Real Sports With Bryant Gumbel" that debuted last night, white people all look the same to McNabb. We all look like Rush Limbaugh.
If we criticize him for a poor performance, like the one Monday night against Washington or the one the week before against Green Bay, he feels it has much more to do with his skin color than his level of production.
McNabb has yet to explain exactly how black QB's receive more criticism than white QB's.
We're still waiting, Donovan. The floor is yours.
joyces replied September 21, 2007
phylinghigh said September 20, 2007
Hang in there, work through it and let's get a win on sunday.
Good luck,
Maurice, Berlin Germany
Hot4McNabb said September 20, 2007
or
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid823496283/bclid932553089/bctid1184496151
Video Summary provided below
Jenny Carlson:
"...I may not know what its like to be a black quarterback but I do know what its like to be a female sportswriter. I am a minority in this business just like McNabb is in his, and ya know what? I feel like I have to do a little bit extra, I feel like I have to work more hours and write better stories and do better blogs and take better videos because my work will be scrutinized differently by you the viewers and the readers."
"I feel I'm more scrutinized then my male counterparts...those are the expectations that I live with"
GETusJUST1 said September 20, 2007
I hate the media. You have done so much for the fans of Philly, and no one can ever take that away. Thanks for 2001, and 2002, and 2003, and 2004, every year. You made us formiddable. Made us a real team who could beat anyone.
I'll be there on Sunday when we play Detroit. I have no worry that you will return to form with haste. Do it to em 5!
Peace
joemoe73 said September 20, 2007
Take us to the bowl!!
Joe from Fairmount
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pmcdonald said September 20, 2007
I know you and the Birds are struggling right now, but I have confidence that once you get your game legs and get Curtis, Brown and company moving that the Eagles will be back on top!
Hopefully you are here for the rest of your career! E-A-G-L-E-S..........EAGLES!!!!!!!!!!!
cschulte78 said September 20, 2007
I have been an Eagles fan for all my life. I have worn my green through the great years and the bad years. I have never been so proud to call the Eagles my team than the years when McNabb has been the leader of this team. He has played at an elite level since he came into the league and has done it with a true dignity and warrior mentality. He has dealt with a lot of controversies that were not of his doing. It is one thing for a player to have to answer media question after question about off the field instances when it is warranted, but what has McNabb ever done on or off the field to draw this amount of criticism. If Donovan says that he feels he has to do a little extra as a black QB in the NFL, who is anyone that is not in the same position qualified to argue with that point. First of all, he is talking about how HE feels. He is the one that gets analyzed by every blogger, sports TV personality, sports radio host in the country. Are his statements a strong message? Yes, and you know what it is refreshing. He has had to unfairly defend himself for judgements and comments made against him by individuals and groups of people. I am not African American, but I as a person was outraged by the comments made by the local NAACP chapter about McNabb. Donovan has done nothing but carry himself with class on and off the field. We too often try and tear down the good guys and rationalize the bad guys. How many shows have documented all the charity work McNabb has done? How many radio programs did a segment talking about how McNabb has fought his back on the field less than a full year after tearing up his knee? Didn't Carson Palmer get praised for returning to the field after his injury? How many people gave him a pass even though the Bengals didn't make it to the playoffs? How is his situation any different than McNabbs? Donovan feels as though he has to do more...to me the next question should be How hasn't he had to do more?
sds1011 said September 20, 2007
csonkaJR said September 20, 2007
tscott said September 20, 2007
As I said in my previous post keep your head up and go forward... do not compromise yourself for anyone or anything!
PhillyRapture said September 20, 2007
fanatic said September 20, 2007
Donovan has gotten so much grief from this city (literally) since the day we drafted him. You want to criticize his play? Fine that's fair, but he gets ripped if he farts the wrong way.
D-Mac, don't listen to all the idiots out there and on the radio. Lot's of us still support you and always will. Even when you leave this organization. An organization that has become VERY VERY hard to cheer for.
I don't know what bothers me more, the arrogance of management, the fans, or the media. I peronsally cannot wait until you leave and I hope you light it up in another city.
glaciers12 said September 20, 2007
AllTrac said September 21, 2007
sydneywoowoo said September 21, 2007
and how u r sticking up for yourself
stillscrambln said September 20, 2007
I spent a good portion of this afternoon tracking the comments posted in response to USATODAY's coverage of your comments. I can't believe how far off the mark people were in understanding your statement. Then again, this is America. For those who reacted negatively towards your opinion I offer this: Based on who is selected to play the quarterback position (with the preference being intelligence), which statement is the most damaging and which one would be more likely to be offered as an evaluation (criticism) for a black quarterback?
A) He needs to work on his pocket presence
B) He needs to learn how to read defenses
I would say B is the most damaging and it is most often directed toward a black quarterback. Comment B indrectly alludes to intelligence and is one that I still hear about Randall Cunningham today. I think this is where you were going with your comments on HBO. Finally, I agree whole heartedly with your statement about 'the balck quarterback having to do a little extra'. My father always told that in order to succeed in this world you have to be better than your white counterparts at whatever you chose to do in life. That was his reality and I've found that his advice has served me well. Peace to you and your family.
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MikeAllentown said September 21, 2007
I met you two years ago in Puerto Rico and then again in Bethlehem during training camp. I have been an Eagles fan all my life. It is frustrating to see you go through what every star in Philly goes through...at some point the fans will turn on you and run you out of town. You are the best quarterback this city has ever seen. You are statistically in the top 3 or 4 quarterbacks in the league every year (when healthy), but yet the idiots in this city are just waiting for you to screw up so they can blast you. IMy hope is that you work through your injury and get back to the Donovan we all know is there and shut these people up. Don't let the jerks get to you. Just be who you are and concentrate on Football. Worst case scenario you will probably win a Super Bowl for another team! Good luck with your season. I hope you can get past this thing quickly and win some games!
eaglephan73 said September 21, 2007
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tomcoffey said September 21, 2007
If a white basketball player came out with the same response he would be a racist.
rebown said September 21, 2007
I normally don't try to fight this battle, but this is getting absolutely ridiculous. I'm a white male, 29 years old in a wealthy, 99% white neighborhood where I live and grew up. I listen to both Philly sports radio stations all the time. I cant stand the anger that people have over Donovan and his view on this issue. How do you people live your lives? Take a look at yourself for a second, in all seriousness, and ask yourselves, "Why am I so angry or frustrated with this?". "Am I misunderstanding something here?" Not disagreeing, but ANGRY! I'm not sure how prevalent the double standard is on black QB'S, or even if Donovan is right or wrong. How would I know, number one? And two; I don't personally see it currently. Or at least I'm not aware of it. But like most racism, you don't usually see or realize it. Especially if you are white; Its subtle, but there. I myself, have realized that I have basically been racist in the passed, or should I say I thought or felt something that was actually a double standard because someone was black. I did this subconsciously. I didn't think i was racist but I was actually being one. I only really realized it after I had a class in college that dealt with these types of issues..... ((Lets Go Mountaineers! Donovan, I regret missing the one game where we beat you guys in Morgantown. I thought you were great and I was very glad that we drafted you. That booing has always been humiliating for me as a Philly fan. But just like you, I guess, I cant worry about what other people say.))
Anyway, as I was saying; if I could think one way about something, and then all of a sudden realize I was thinking completely wrong about it, I wondered what else I didn't see happening around me, and what else I was wrong about. Something unfortunately, I think the average white idiot doesn't do. Nothing to do with whether or not you went to college, at all. That just happened to be where I was when I first realized how I was acting.
I have plenty more things to say, and maybe there is a better way to get my point across then how I'm explaining it but to make a long story longer...
My point is this; There is a REASON you are SO affected/frustrated by this topic. Whether you realize it or not. Just listening to and reading what most of the white angry/frustrated men say about Donovan is, in my opinion, sad and pathetic yet a common behavior in societies in general. The logic in some of these "anti-Donovan/alleged former fan" posts, is almost comical. What would you do if you were in his shoes and you felt a certain way about something and it just so happened to be some important issue, whatever it may be, and you had a chance to tell the truth, regardless of whether it is something that really affects you or something you don't look sympathy because of , ONLY because someone asked you? Would all of you, "Some of us aren't as fortunate as you" tough guys actually sit there and say, "I'm not going to answer this because I don't think people will be happy and I'm just a hard working guy who has to fight to maintain an average life style"? NO YOU WOULDN'T. You have every right to, number one, answer a question, and number two, have an opinion. He is not preaching, he is not fighting, he is not crying. He is answering a question he was asked and giving his view. That's the great thing about this country. You can disagree. But if it makes you so frustrated and angry, you might want to take a cold hard look inside yourself and wonder why. I personally think that it, in some cases, is because people have a guilty conscience, lack of understanding, lack of being objective, inability to look outside the box, or lack of thinking capacity. We all have to remember that we are all a product of our environment. Donovan is, I am, and you are. What kind of environment did you grow up in? Were you around people who didn't like black people? Where you around blacks that were criminals? Whatever your environment may have been; we are all clouded by what we have experienced? That's all we know. And unfortunately most people don't look to understand more then what they may perceive, or feel they know. If they did, they would realize that not all blacks are alike, just like every other race, and they would realize that other people also have views based on their own experiences as well and that you may not see it the way they do because YOU WEREN'T THERE!
Lastly,
We are so fortunate to have Donavon. For MANY reasons. i.e. Bubby Brister, Ty Detmer, Jim McMahon etc. , etc.. Look at where we have been and look at where we have come. Then look at where you have been and what you have experienced, and who you have become. - Ethan
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rlombardo007 said September 21, 2007
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joyces said September 21, 2007
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paladin2002 said September 21, 2007
Excerpts:
"Women in sports writing stand out. I hate it, but there's no getting around it. I have been called out in locker rooms - one college player once yelled, "Lady coming,'' as if I was an incoming grenade - and endured nothing shy of a ritual hazing from a baseball player who shall remain nameless at my first major league game. And my personal favorite, a controversial college hoops coach once began an interview with me by saying, "You're too purdy to be a sports writer. You need a new profession.''
So as Donovan McNabb tried yesterday to explain his comments on HBO's "Real Sports,'' I understood what he was trying to say when he said as an African-American quarterback, he has to "do a little extra.'' I'll admit I cringed a little as I listened to the comments, wishing he could have left the genie in the bottle, but I got it.
Peyton Manning was criticized for never winning the big one before last year; Rex Grossman was criticized because . . . because he deserved it. But neither of them will ever tote the burden of being a white quarterback just as men in my profession will never be referred to as male sports writers. Black and female are different and therefore necessitate the adjective.
Years ago, another female sports writer told me to make sure I did my homework because every time I goofed, people would line up to refer to me as some dumb chick who doesn't know the difference between a Cover 2 and a bedcover.
McNabb told me in a telephone interview last night he got the same sort of advice.
"That's definitely how I was prepared,'' McNabb said as we exchanged war stories. "People told me when I came into this league to do the extra studying, to work out harder, prepare myself better. It's not so much, 'Yes sir, no sir,' but don't give anyone a reason to say that you're uncoachable, that you can't be trusted, that you want to do your own thing. The margin for error is different.''
Writer Phil Sheridan added:
First, it was clear from conversations among the assembled media that most of them didn't see the actual HBO segment. That's a shame, because context is important here. The piece focused on McNabb's background, on racism his family encountered upon moving into a mostly white Chicago suburb called Dolton, and on McNabb's dubious status as the most peculiarly criticized professional athlete in the country.
That's most peculiarly criticized, not most criticized. Many athletes take heat for their performances, for the things they say and do, for their off-the-field actions. Some of them bring heavy criticism on themselves with bad behavior or ignorant public comments.
McNabb has been a very good player and a model citizen throughout his Eagles career. And yet he has been at the center of strange episodes involving Rush Limbaugh, who said he was coddled by the media because he was black; Terrell Owens, who insinuated that McNabb was not black enough; and the head of the local NAACP, who wrote a screed essentially calling McNabb a traitor to his race.
If your knee-jerk reaction was that McNabb is completely off base, think again. All of those bizarre incidents were racially tinged. And no, Rex Grossman and Peyton Manning and Tom Brady never have to deal with that kind of nonsense.
The article ends with, "It comes down to this. I don't think McNabb is right in this case, but I understand why he feels the way he does. And that's kind of a shame in itself."
joyces replied September 22, 2007
paladin2002 said September 21, 2007
Big_Pimpin said September 21, 2007
squejay said September 21, 2007
Go Eagles,
EJ
P.S. I,ve never seen Tom, Carson, or Peyton scramble for 12 seconds, shed for tackles and complete a first down pass.
margeschott said September 21, 2007
Now, Campbell is seeing daylight as a starter and probably doesnt wanna/cant afford to make ripples in Danny-Land;-) McNabb on the other hand has earned his position of critique.
I find it unfortunate Campbell seemingly favors a business approach, but I can understand that too. I am looking forward to more published comments such as by Brian Dawkins who nut shelled an 'Amen' when asked to agree or disagree with McNabb. I guess that if the commenting players who take heart are older it says that the young ones bite their lip? So this seems to be a space for comment if not reserved then served up to veterans. I embrace men particularly from within the sport who know what they are talking about: 1, the situation a player is in, 2, the civic responsibility of support being of greater public value than the personal economics. The second point alone is a highly personal choice ccccccertain majorities I would suggest not very often are forced to make in this business. I appreciate multi-dimensional players like Donovan McNabb. That act of speaking up is a counter weight to Pacman, Vick, Tank, the non-suspension of Belichick, Billick´s play calling, well u get my drift. Go Ravens.
joyces replied September 22, 2007
margeschott replied September 25, 2007
ChicagoJake said September 21, 2007
We'll give up Lance Briggs for you-Jake D.
ChicagoJake said September 21, 2007
Speakin' the truth from Boise, Idaho-Jake D.
Eagles2007 said September 21, 2007
You should read post #140. You failed to mention other excerpts in the Philadelphia newspapers. Your last post(175) "You're the man Donovan! You're a credit to the Eagles, and Philadelphia!" would seem to indicate that you are a fan of McNabb. If so, why did you sign up to Yardbarker on Friday, Sept. 21(today)?
Where have you been? Oh, I see. You signed up to share your thoughts on this topic. Except, you haven't given any thoughts of your own.
paladin2002 replied September 21, 2007
Thanks for the response! I wasn't expecting anyone to respond directly to anything I wrote, so that was a surprise! I didn't mention the other excerpts, because post #140 (I just noticed, that was a previous post of yours) had covered that. Hence the reason why I added O'Neil and Sheridan's from yesterday. I could've added excerpts from others that I saw online, including Whitlock's and Doyel's, but I'll leave that up to the individual users. There's plenty of stuff out there......I don't think that any of us should feel afraid to post contradictory viewpoints, because the public's going to make their own individual judgements about what's right or wrong anyway. It's a good subject to discuss.
Why didn't I sign up until today? Well...I think that's a pretty strange question, so allow me to ask, why does that matter to you? But truthfully, I already post on three Eagles fan sites anyway, and have done so for years (as long as we're on this subject, now I'm curious as to how many you post on, because I'm sure that you post on a couple...and how long have you posted here?), and one of the posters on those sites gave a link to the yardbarker site. I usually don't follow blogs anyway (though it's cool that DMac takes the time to respond to some individual posters), and didn't pay attention to how people posted comments on them. But this is a hot topic, isn't it? The post that I made here yesterday, was virtually identical to one of the posts that I was making on the other Eagles message boards yesterday. Just so you know.
Message to all: if you have news excerpts, pro or con, that you think would be good material for this list, please post it! I'm sure that Donovan would encourage respectful dialogue among fans, especially on this subject, or on causes that he supports, etc.!
Thanks for the reminder about sharing my thoughts on this subject! I should've just copied-and-pasted them from the other board.
- I believe that stereotypes do exist with regard to black vs. white quarterbacks, including the old "running quarterback" stereotype. I think that the media tries to be objective, but they're still more likely to use the phrase "running quarterback" with regard to men like Donovan McNabb or Vince Young, as opposed to Jake Plummer or Steve Young, and that's wrong. If anything good comes out of this, hopefully the use of this stereotype will decrease in the future. You never know.
- I think that Jason Campbell is sympathetic to McNabb's statements, because he said that he "used to" feel the same way, then said that now he views all quarterbacks the same, but then shifted and said that, as an African American quarterback, naturally he supports all African American quarterbacks. Why make that distinction? I think that he just doesn't want to rock the boat one way or the other.
- another stereotype is that, maybe even unconsciously, there are still college coaches would see a talented black high school quarterback and incorrectly believe that he wouldn't make it as a quarterback, and should switch to another position. This happened with Donovan, and I wouldn't be surprised if it still happens today.
- I do wish that this came up further back in the offseason, because the Eagles are 0-2 and need to concentrate on getting back to winning ballgames.
- getting off topic, I think that some of our problems in the passing offense right now are related to DMac's knee not being 100%...he can't buy as much time to extend plays, might not be able to plant his feet and step into throws like he would like to, and because he lacks the mobility that most West-Coast QB's have (like a Steve Young or a Jeff Garcia), etc., other teams can drop LB's into coverage, keep a spy on Westbrook, and tighten down our offense. To make matters worse, our receivers are having a very hard time getting separation on the defenders. It makes me miss Donte Stallworth, although I still don't miss Terrell Owens, although he seems to be behaving himself more these days.
- I think that it's better to discuss subjects like this, rather than "respectfully" not bring it up. I think that you remove a social injustice by exposing it, not by sweeping it under the rug, and eventually it does bring us all closer together, not separate us.
How to compensate? More emphasis on the running game with Westy, C-Buck and Tony Hunt for starters. Use players coming out of the backfield to clear short-coverage defenders out and make room for other receivers. Get receivers going in motion instead of having them do a standing start, and then running into bump and run coverage. And, if his knee not being 100% really is the problem, or if Donovan is just ineffective for too long, for whatever reason, consider putting in Kolb until it's definitely 100% (normally I would've said AJ Feeley, but he has that broken hand). But Andy Reid has already voiced his support for DMac ("He'll get it done.")
Take care of yourself, go EAGLES!
Eagles2007 replied September 21, 2007
You certainly did share your thoughts. I respect your opinions. I, like you, just want the Eagles to start winning some games. How about a prediction? Eagles 27 Lions 13
paladin2002 replied September 21, 2007
Eagles 20 Lions 17
joyces replied September 22, 2007
Geneseo98 said September 21, 2007
For what it's worth, I can honestly say I don't see you as black or white or whatever... just an honest class act who happens to play some awesome quarterback in the NFL. Throw out the issues and the drama and the ups and downs - just know that some of us are behind you - the man - no matter what.
Keep on working hard and making us proud. I know you'll have a great season and you'll once again prove the naysayers wrong! Thanks!
Nick Loucks
ld1971 said September 21, 2007
In a world where everyone in the public eye is afraid to say what they really feel, I thought it was great to see someone as high profile as yourself, being comfortable and confident enough to give your honest feelings regarding JB's question and to actually stick by it and back it up!!! While I still do not understand why many have taken your statements to be controversial(nor do I understand why this is the response every time race is brought into any discussion), I think your statements are dead on accurate and I am glad that you expressed your opinion because it demonstrates how the racial divide is still with us. People are often simply more polite on the surface and therefore convince themselves racism is non-existent. The reaction in the mainstream media once again demonstrates that people are still uncomfortable having an open and honest dialogue about race. It is somewhat ironic that at the same time your "controversy" has been burning up the sports pages....down in Jena, Louisiana, there are thousands protesting the blatantly discriminatory and racist actions of the local DA for his prosection of six black students(of course the naysayers think that the actions of the white students down there were harmless pranks).
I also have found it laughable that ESPN tonight has been running the comments made by Vince Young and Jason Campbell--both of whom chose to avoid any sort of meaningful and direct answer(whatever that would have been) and instead gave the typical "polite" NFL response of "just trying for focus on winning and the "company line" that all quarterbacks regardless of race get criticized etc." First of all, they chose two of the youngest black qbs in the league who have accomplished nothing yet and obviously have a lot to lose given the pressure they are under not only as young, but also young black qbs. It is as if the network is on a mission to discredit and prove you wrong.
Anyone with half a brain should realize that Young and Campbell would want to take the high road--especially seeing the backlash you have recieved. Further, CAmpbell has just become the starting qb in DC and Young had his own problems in pre-season this year with the fight and showing up late for practice. The way the media reacted to that situation you would have thought his exit from the league was eminent.
I have never understood the criticism and the fact that you are always seem to be in the middle of some controversy through no fault of your own, ie Limbaugh, NAACP leader, TO, whatever. I also respect the way you have always seem let it just roll of your back and move on--I don't think i could have handled those situations with the same level of dignity and class.
Keep in mind what happened to Randall Cunningham, I remember his last years in Philly(I was in school at Temple University at the time), the boo-birds ran him out of town--the next year he was the MVP of the league in Minnesota. If the Philly fans and the Eagles organization do not get it together and show some respect, you may just have to be the MVP someplace else!!!! Sometimes the hard-headed got to feel to believe it!!!
Anyway, I have been a fan since your days at the 'Cuse--thanks for all of the great memories in the Dome and best of luck with the rest of the season!!!!
JD, Syracuse, NY
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BigAlEagles said September 21, 2007
The fans love him when he wins and boos when they loose. I think sports fans are more worried about wins and looses than black and white. I think the media runs with this stuff. If you don't believe me, put on any sport station or channel.
The media makes you think the fans are interested in this stuff, but the fans are more interested in beating the Lions. GO EAGLES!
03Prep said September 21, 2007
Do you think the type of scrutiny black QB's face is similar to that which white running backs do/would face?
MoeEagles said September 21, 2007
The best quarterback Philly has ever had and the best sports role model Philly has ever had, period. Go Birds!!
kwbarrett said September 21, 2007
You have been a model citizen in a profession where unfortunately, we don't see too many like you. My wife was a grad student at Syracuse when you were there and since then she has followed your career.
Anyone over the age of about 30, who has any sense of the history of the NFL and black QBs should know exactly what you meant by your comments. They don't know that Tony Dungy was in fact a top QB in the Big Ten, who went undrafted, not becaus he wasn't good enough. He had to change positions just to play in the NFL. They don't know how bad Jay Schraeder had to play before the Redskins would start Doug Williams. And they know nothing about Warren Moon's journey from Rose Bowl to the CFL and then the NFL. And let's not forget the most egregious case I can think of in Charlie Ward. How a Heisman Trophy award winning QB goes undrafted is astonishing. I'm just happy he was a two sport athlete as were you. You have nothing to apologize for. You simply voiced what many black men in sports and business deal with. We all have to do a little extra, not only for our bosses, but also for those that may come after us one day. Thanks for everything you do. God Bless.
sharktooth2572 said September 21, 2007
Let me start off by saying that I am a Redskins fan! But, I am also a huge fan of yours. I have ALWAYS been impressed by your ability, (and frustrated too). They say you are a running Quarterback! Those critics are simple minded! Here is what I see from you, You go through your reads, if someone is open, then you throw it to them, if no one is open then you run for MANY yards! Your only other option would be to throw the ball away, HMMM let's compare, MANY yards...throw the ball away, seems simple to me.
I think your Character is awesome. You are what the game needs. I appreciate you as an athlete and as an ambassador of the game. I am truly sorry that you are criticized differently just because you are a black Quarterback. I am White but I have to agree with you. I am not saying that you are not respected or loved but you are treated different. Unfortunately, that's where we are in life. I wish I could change things but I can't. The only thing I can do is express my appreciation for you for the person and competetor you are. I have been treated different all my life too, but when you are good, jealous people try to break you down. We all will be criticized and looked at differently until we die. Only then will we be loved and adored equally as we walk around heaven... all day.
High regards Mac 5. Stay strong, Good luck, and stay the way you are.
Chuck
cdiddy said September 21, 2007
I am big Giants fan and as you all can gather, I HATE the Eagles and every other Philly team for that matter (just a part of being a fan and having a rivalry). But despite that, Donovan has always been one of, if not my favorite player around the NFL. This was in large part due to the fact that he always portrayed class, comradery and a love for the game: three of the greatest things about the sport of football. But reading this has left me disheartened and has made me question McNabb's credibility and integrity.
It's a damn shame that to this day race is still playing such a significant issue in hindering the lives of so many individuals. I place the blame on those that continue to LET it be an issue; meaning every race. In this instance, I blame both whites and blacks.
It's always the same story: The white man instigates the black man, the black man then blames the white man. An uproar ensues in the black community and the white community downplays it. And then, we start all over again. It is a never ending cycle that will never stop. And it is all just for attention or a distraction.
I honestly believe that most media reporters are idiots who NEED to ask these types of asanine questions to gain viewership or get a response of significant magnitude. I do not condone their actions whatsoever. But Donovan, come on man, I always looked as you as better than 'writing a blog' about something like this.
Granted. Black quarterbacks may deal with different issues than white quarterbacks, and Donovan obviously knows better than most of us due to the fact that he is in the huddle and he is out there answering questions every day. But Donovan, don't you realize that it is people like you that enables, that LETS the race card come in to play, that lets this go on and on and on? The more you let idiots (albeit reporters, news anchors, etc.) get to you, the more fuel you provide to their fire. And you have to understand that it starts a chain reaction that ultimately makes you sacrifice your credibility and integrity.
And as far as naivety is concerned, I believe you are the one that is being naive about the race card coming into play because of specific on-field performance. It is understood that you did this interview before the season started, but how can you NOT think that people would observe this as a distraction to your lack of success lately or your apparent issues with a new QB being drafted in Philadelphia? The mere fact of you writing this blog, signifies that you are portraying this issue as a distraction. You may not realize it, but it is exactly what you are doing.
Every reknowned sports player/celebrity gets criticized and questioned about things that don't necessarily have anything to do with anything. And I'll tell you right now, it's not always about blacks. Look at Pete Rose. The guy has been trying to get into the hall of fame forever, but since he was accused of gambling on baseball games, it will never happen. Rafeal Palmeiro lied straight into our faces about using steroids and has all but discredited his entire successful career. Bill Clinton had sexual relations with his intern and what the hell did that have to do with him being President? The fact of the matter is that criticism just happens and the best way to avoid it is to just shut up, especially when in the spotlight. In no way am I denouncing freedom of speech, but what I am saying is to be smart about how you exemplify that freedom.
I believe that race is a rampant issue in today's society, but I honestly believe it is a microcosm of so many other things that are wrong with society. But, the more that we continue to focus on issues like this, and the more that we LET it happen, the more we fall back into the never-ending cycle of bitching and moaning.
margeschott said September 21, 2007
I actually caught myself droppin out off other boards peppered with hate, insults, racism and general disrespect. So, leafing over these posts here I share your sentiment and enjoy this site on this topic. Most boards I have visited in the past -team 'allegiance' aside- are poorly managed and neither insightful nor clever/funny.
Most on this page so far is good stuff from sincere people who appear to have given their words some thought. So thank you all, will you give yerselves a hand !
Post 167, you on the other hand just amaze me!
1, What jumps out at me is the irony of it all in that some people tell others how to deal with something they themselves DONT have to deal with. How to deal with a problem they dont encounter, a problem with many and long roots. Meaning, something they themselves dont have experience with.
Therefore, you simply dont really know (as in : are familiar with) what u are talking about. And you are talking about something that is a bigger problem for McNabb than it is for you, meaning : racism.
Maybe, just maybe you could try a little restraintin your search for leaders and step onto the clearing a little more slowly ? We´d love to see you there, bro.
2, 'Playing the race card' means (at least in my world) that doing so is done for effect and unnecessarily. As in, 'there were other options.' I dont think that (McNabb desiring an effect) is the case here. You would do well to distinguish a strategic luxury from a right. Namely, the right of someone to call their reality what it is. Even if it isnt yours. And also do well to distinguish that easyness about McNabb (answering a question) from a perceived ploy or strategically played 'card.'
Racism is an everyday issue. Unless you´re Jena´s on my mind, supposedly ordered speech therapy for Byron Leftwich, none of this is happy stuff. On sports boards, there are just sooooo many bigots. Wiseacres, short-sighted, loud-mouthed and foul-mouthed.
Its rare I look at one -ever- and leave it feeling that with most people´s writings there is a common knowledge. Post 165 knowledege, not 167.
I like that.
PS - ESPN, FOX and HBO are just soooooo sensationalistic and really unprofessional sometimes its beyond 'bordering on' irresponsible. Bad, baaaad journalism. 'The flavor of the week','Next', stirring this pot, coaxing controversy, wearing thin and thinner... Its because of that I enjoy Dr Z´s annual grading of the NFL game commentators. One of the best voices in the sport, that man. At least I think so. He stripped Tony Kornholsky liike a banana. Z is looking for info, not style. Not lookin for Tony.
I didnt really write that on YomKippur, did I ?! Durn. Well, happy holidays !
Superkavi said September 21, 2007
mjg73084 said September 21, 2007
mcnabbmcnow said September 21, 2007
I have always been a big fan of yours. However, these latest comments have got me a little upset. First off, when you say you are receiving more criticism, isn't that extra criticism actually coming from other African American groups who insist you aren't black enough...such as the NAACP. That is extra criticism, but it's not racist, and if that is who you are talking about, it would be good to clarify.
Donovan, you may be 100% right on this, but to me, that isn't the point. As the quarterback on the Philadelphia Eagles football team, you are called on to be a leader, to be someone who brings players together. The quarterback has to be one of the most unselfish, loyal guys that everyone respects and gets along with. For that reason, for you to make divisive comments about race, particularily so close to the season, to me, is selfish and disappointing. It doesn't matter if you are right, you knew what the reaction to this was going to be. And now it will be another distraction to a team that doesn't need one. I'd just once like to see you apologize for anything...like throwing the ball to the 2 to LJ Smith in the Tampa game before the half. Instead of admitting you messed up and being mature, you stubbornly stated "I'd do the same play over again." Fans don't like that type of attitude.
Steve
Warminster, PA
dp_coz said September 21, 2007
I am a Philadelphian, and I wanted Rickey Williams in 1999 until Howard Eskin convinced some of us prior to the draft that a quality QB was the right way to go, and you have clearly shown that since. I have taken your side on all of the unfortunate controversies that have happened in your career for the following reasons:
-You were unfairly attacked
-You took the high road
-You were the bigger man in each of the controversies
-I didn't understand why you were being attacked
These controversies include the 1999 Draft, The Rush Limbaugh comments, the T.O. debacle and the unwarranted comments from Jerry Mondeshire.
I'm white (an evil whitey for those who want to know) and I'm highly critical of you for a few reasons:
-You're paid to take it
-You have the benefit AND responsibility of having the most Critical position on the roster
-Your play more than any other position affects the game
-Your ability can open the rusty gates shut since 1983 (Sixers)
Nowhere above is there anything about race, is there? I'm just as critical of you as I was with Ron Jaworski, Randall Cunningham, Rodney Peete, Bobby Hoying, Koy Detmer, Doug Peterson and whoever else they shoved in there before we lucked out in drafting you in '99. If you think the city is racist because of a certain few, than that's very unfortunate. Philadelphia was the home of one of the NFL's first great African-American Quarterbacks - Randall Cunningham. To many of us, we weren't focused on a 'black quarterback,' instead, we were amazed by his skill, his speed, and his ability to win games at a critical time. Many of us feel that although he never won a super bowl, Randall should bee in the hall of fame, unless the hall is too racist (Isave it for another arguement)
Donovan, please take the high road, just as you have before. Do what I do: When my daughter was born, I had the privlidge of filling out the forms. When the form asked for my 'race' I responded with "Human." Why can't the rest of us do the same? Promote yourself as a Quarterback, not a "black-quarterback"! And for the love of God, WIN! If you were to win a Super Bowl, Philadelphia would likely hold you in a higher Echelon than Dr. J, and to many of us, the Good Doctor is a hard one to top!
Feel free to argue me on this one! AIM: mccheeselives
Dan C.
NYCEagle replied September 21, 2007
Jackman said September 21, 2007
DrJohn replied September 21, 2007
DrJohn said September 21, 2007
it's the same for every minority in this country. and, in case you're wondering, i'm a white 30 year old male from the midwest. bottom line, there is a subset of white people in this country who don't know what it is to be a minority...never faced unwarranted criticism or scrutiny...never have to go through what little things that probably would set them off (like being called out for being a different color...however small that might seem). i am behind donovan on this.
Steeladon said September 21, 2007
joepa2k6 said September 21, 2007
Jackman said September 21, 2007
Sniff-sniff, Boo-hoo, I make hundreds of millions of dollars and I haave to put up with people criticizing me about my blackness or lack thereof. Whine-whine.
Just play football. If you can't do that, retire!
Maybe Donovan and his Mom can just go and suck down some Chunky Soup.
joyces replied September 22, 2007
Ranchorich replied September 27, 2007
bump24 said September 21, 2007
hollywoodnick said September 21, 2007
I wanted to let you know that I support you 100%. You bring up some great points. I wish you the best the rest of the year. I will follow you whatever team you are on. If Philly gets rid of you, shame on them. You are the greatest player in the team's history. PHilly fans are too moronic to understand that.
andrea68 said September 21, 2007
I applaud you for making your statement. Not only is this an issue for those of you who are our entertainers and super stars, but it is also an issue for those of us who work in several areas of society.
I work for a corporation and during my discussion wiht a boss aboiut my performance I was told, " Becasue you are black, you have to do more". This is what is expected from society and yet when we do more we are not compensated. If we make a mistake, we are taken to the mountain top and they shout it from the moutaintop that we did not succeed as if to say, "See, didn't I tell you not to let them in".
When will this end?
Drea
TeeRex replied September 21, 2007
TeeRex said September 21, 2007
Yes, this is a problem that is not going to go away. We are suppose to be celebrating the 75th Anniversary of a football franchise and now this war of words and racial commentary has been brought up by a millionaire quarterback who has been hurt three out of th last five years. We prefer that you had not started until you were completely healthy if that is you excuse for the level of play that we have been subject to watching the past two weeks. We would much rather you allow someone else to take the snap and get well enough to come in and really produce. Maybe it is something you should think about and let the air deflate from your head, maybe then you will be able to think about this a little bit clearer and quit whining about comments and pressure. You never hear Rex Grossman crying whenever he is being degraded, and oh by the way he lead his tead to the Super Bowl last year. Also what about Eli Manning, you never hear about him whining. He lives in the shadows of his brother and has never lived up to the potential expected yet. Then we have Chad Pennington, New York is brutal on this guy but he never speaks out in public negatively about anything, or at least I haven't read or heard it.
You know, it all boils down to the fact that you are a football player in the gridiron spotlight. You have to be thick skinned at times when things aren't going so well. Seems like it is time to go put on the shoulder pads and helmet and close the mouth or else people will start to believe Philly would have been better off with TO and not you.
Regards,
TeeRex
joyces replied September 22, 2007
HawaiiEagle said September 21, 2007
What bothers me most is that they asked young black qbs on how they feel about it-Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Tavaris Jackson, Jason Campbell, etc. These guys aren't affected by it as much because the older guys paved the way for them. Ask a guy like Steve McNair or Randall Cunningham or Doug Williams how they felt or feel. I bet you get a different response.
Eagle in the Pacific
macc10 said September 21, 2007
joyces replied September 22, 2007
Eagles2007 said September 21, 2007
The Washington Times reports responding to comments by Eagles QB Donovan McNabb that black NFL quarterbacks are held to a higher standard than their white colleagues, Redskins QB Jason Campbell said yesterday he hasn't found that to be the case. "Early in my career in college, I felt like people looked at me differently and expected a lot more," said Campbell, the Washington Redskins' starter since November. "I felt I had to do a little extra. At that point, I did feel that way. I don't feel that way now in the NFL."
In an HBO interview first aired Tuesday, McNabb, the longtime Philadelphia Eagles franchise player, said black quarterbacks "have to do a little bit extra" because there are so few starting at the position, adding, "people didn't want us to play this position."
McNabb and Campbell are two of six black starting quarterbacks in the NFL, joining Baltimore QB Steve McNair, Minnesota QB Tarvaris Jackson, Jacksonville QB David Garrard and Tennessee QB Vince Young.
Even in a winning performance, McNabb said people will say: "Oh, he could have made this throw here. We would have scored more points if he would have done this." McNabb said Indianapolis QB Peyton Manning and Cincinnati QB Carson Palmer aren't held to the same standard as black quarterbacks.
Campbell has long admired McNabb, and he outplayed the veteran in the Redskins' 20-12 win Monday night in Philadelphia.
"That's his opinion, and as an African-American quarterback, I have to support other African-American quarterbacks," Campbell said.
"But it's something I can't get caught up in. I look at all quarterbacks as the same. I support every guy who's playing the position. It's the hardest position to play in professional sports, and you get graded differently than any other position on the field. Nine times out of 10 the ball is in your hands, so everybody is watching you. Since you're in the spotlight, the mistakes get recognized. You need thick skin and a short memory."
Gbones said September 20, 2007
Up2NoGood said September 20, 2007
BigFatDave said September 21, 2007
tsadeek712 said September 21, 2007
Larkinater said September 21, 2007
HaloChaos said September 21, 2007
That said:
I'm am Eagles fan, always has been always will be. I remember Randall and Fred Barnett, getting destroyed by the Cowboys in the '90ies, Rich Cotite, Ray Rhodes, Rodney Peete, the Detmer Brothers, and all of that. I'm born and raised in Philly, and one of those long suffering fans hoping for a SB one day (You were 3 points away! Dang it!)
Anyway, the whole HBO thing. When I first saw it, I disagreed completely. I actually agreed with Rush a little bit about Black QBs being overhyped in the Media. A LITTLE BIT.
My example is Michael Vick. I do not believe he is a good QB on the Pro Level (my mere opinion, I understand I do not play sports well and acknowledge that I suck at football, espically QB :P)
Michael Vick is a good Running Back, but I do not believe hes a very good QB. I'll give him that he lead his team to one NFC champ game, but I believe that was more the Falcons Defense and Running Game then it was Michael Vick's throwing ability. The Media overhyped him because he was black, I believe.
That said, when you said what you said on HBO, I disagreed. However I've had time to think, and I've listen to you explain it in more detail, and heres what I think:
I agree with you, and I'll say it here plainly. People look at Black QB's are running QBs. Thats the first thing they think when they see a Black man under center. They don't expect the Best TD to INT ratio in the history of the Eagles (and the NFL? Not sure). They don't expect the Cardinals game, when you threw 4 TD's on a broken leg (Running QB on a broken leg? Come on). People on like ESPN were calling you a Running QB at times, and its the stuff you are talking about. They cover it by that language of "running QB" and "Pocket Passer".
They never call a white QB a Running QB. It wasn't that they judge Black QB's more harshly in my opinion, its that they judge Black and White QB's DIFFERENTLY. Thats the racism element in all of this.
So now I agree with you. And I think you were just.. answering the question that was presented to you, you know? More like a "Yeah of course racism exists" kind of deal, but I don't think you let it get you down too much. If you do you shouldn't.
Play the game like you know how to play the game. Play the game that gives you the best chances of winning. Honestly, I think you are at your best when you throw from the run, of course you can't do that every play.
Dont let the people get you down, do what you gotta do.
PS - I didnt boo you on Draft Day, we needed a QB and had plenty of RBs! I am glad you came to Philly.. and don't take us too personally. We are fans, and we are a tough croud. Usually our boos are for the team as a whole, not just one person.. hell.. most of the Boo's are for Andy Ried.
PSS - Oh, and get healthy soon, we need you back at 100%! Side Question, is the injury part of the reason you haven't been throwing the ball all too well in the first two games?
simplechaos said September 21, 2007
You do't owe any apologies. Only those who worry about race, wil be the only ones to worry about what was said and I am speaking from the "white" race, if you will. Also I think it is important for you to know that even though I am a Detroit Fan, I am also a McNabb fan. Just do what you do. The football world and all it's fans already knows what you are capable of. You have nothing to prove other than you are trying to get back to healthy. If Philly doesn't want you, we will be happy to take you in Detroit. Although it may be difficult because I am also a Kitna fan, but we can work on that... Good Luck and Keep your head up, I'll be cheering
clarker said September 22, 2007
'running QB's and thats an unfair stereotype. I also feel that he wasnt saying white people hold Black QB's to a higher standard. Case in Point when the leader of the NAACP criticized Donovan for not running more. If he was a white QB nothing would have been said.
Jtoddy25 said September 22, 2007
joyces said September 22, 2007
Lemmings said September 22, 2007
supafive said September 22, 2007
Keep up the good work, good man.
ticklebuddah said September 22, 2007
KolbFan said September 22, 2007
PS Have you noticed that NO other black QB's have defended your statements? Why?
funkediva replied September 23, 2007
funkediva replied September 23, 2007
joyces replied September 23, 2007
margeschott replied September 25, 2007
pzander said September 22, 2007
DATruth215 said September 22, 2007
I have been a fan since you were in Orange and will continue to be a fan until you retire. I myself am a grown man with a family and I lookup to you. (As do my nephews) You have always been a class act. I agree with your responses and support everything you said. It's funny, I continuously found myself defending you at the office against me "fellow" work associates when drafting you first round for Fantasy football. It goes with out saying that they criticized you more so then a few others. So it's amusing to see how now when you speak the truth they get upset about it, and say race card this and race card that. (Coming from guys that don't even understand what a race card is nor how it's play ed.)
Sometimes the truth hurts. Some people just don't want to admit. Keep your head up and God Bless! For every nay sayer you find you have 2 more McNabb fans with twice the heart, mind and spirit. Good Luck this weekend. E-A-G-L-E-S!!!!!
delusional247 said September 22, 2007
delusional247 said September 22, 2007
I just think with the way the offseason went and the start of the season you were put in a no win situation by the front office. I was one of those people that DIDN'T want you to start the season. Why? I think you are risking even more injury to your knee as opposed to sitting until the bye ( while healing and practicing with the first team to shake that rust and find more sync ).
I just don't want to see you get injured again before your knee is even fully healed. ( or injured period ).
Overall its just the mess the front office did during the offseason ( and didn't do ) and it is all wrongly coming back to you.
Best of luck in recovering, Stay healthy & keep your mind straight.
eaglesfan1107 said September 22, 2007
supafive said September 22, 2007
Donovan, you are the man, I am worried that you are frustrated with the fans. So many of us want you to keep your head up, so many of us don't want you to get down on yourself, for more than just your sports ability, but for your ability to be a stand up human being.
HEADS UP!
supafive said September 22, 2007
cnote182 said September 22, 2007
On the sports side of things, I have noticed recently that the athletes who take the most heat in Philly are the Black ones when it seems that many of the other athletes who are not Black are given a pass in many cases. When I listen to sports radio, which is everyday, I notice that people are constantly calling up to talk negatively about McNabb. Those same people will call up and praise dead weight like Pat Burrell and the other wife beater on that team which everyone seems to have forgotten about. Don't get me wrong, Burrell has been swinging a hot bat for the last two months, but he didn't start doing that until he got to hit in front of Howard, thus getting better pitches to swing at. Make no mistake though, Burrell has been dead weight for the last 7 years, I doubt that will change overnight. And I guarantee if McNabb hit his wife in public, he would have been run out of town.
All McNabb has done since coming into town on the "Boo!" Train is take the team to 4 straight NFC Championships and a Super Bowl appearance with a plethora of non-factors (save Westbrook) on Offense. Who would they rather have at QB? Doug Peterson? And for those who say Carson Palmer... how many AFC championships has he been to even with all of that talent around him? If I have one gripe with McNabb's game it is that fact that he throws way too many "dirtballs" and plays too safe at times. Outside of that, he is a top 5 QB in the league regardless of his race. Wanna blame someone for the dismal start? Look no further than the fatman calling the plays. Don, don't apologize for JACK! There are people out here who feel you and who are behind you and your views on society. I only have two words for the Eagles... FEED WESTBROOK! I'm out!
-C~Note182
owatts said September 22, 2007
bozman2 said September 22, 2007
As an Eagles fan, I wish the timing was different since this has become such a flashpoint; though I'm sure you and your teammates are pros about blocking out non-football stuff when you're preparing for the upcoming game, it has to have an effect because you all are human.
Ultimately, it will just give your detractors more ammunition to whine and complain; I'd like nothing better than for you to shut them up yet again.
Good luck and never back down.
TXIggleFan said September 22, 2007
tito20 said September 23, 2007
kingdom2612 said September 23, 2007
ToledoEagle said September 23, 2007
Chendaddy said September 24, 2007
jubril58 said September 24, 2007
bloodbrother said September 24, 2007
moneychamp said September 24, 2007
iLL_one77 said September 24, 2007
iLL_one77 said September 24, 2007
"I would say that is true," said McNabb. "A lot of the plays we were running we felt that we would be very effective in it. We just felt unstoppable at times. We just kind of had to continue to stay focused, guys stayed together and we just waited for our opportunity to get back out on the field."
Keep it togather there will be more opportunintys!!! Hard work on 3- 1,2,3 HARD WORK!!!!!!!-iLL_one77
PhillyRapture said September 24, 2007
patrickinny said September 24, 2007
Patrick from Brooklyn
cocomama5 said September 24, 2007
Jesusboy413 said September 24, 2007
I just wish everyone would sit back and think just a little more out the box that they're living in and see this world for what it is and not out of this "sheltered thinking" like race isn't still an issue. It is and i'm glad you didn't back down donovan. I'm glad you were bold enough to answer from you heart and cause someone to say...well hey...do we treat them different?
To all you fans that booed donovan yesterday at intros...you suck. about 10mins later you were singing his praises...the only thing i hate about being an Eagles fan...is that i have to deal bandwagon people on the bandwagon.
Donovan i apologize for them if it's worth anything. Your a great QB, and even greater human being. Thank God for you and your family. Great game yesterday...Let's go knock down those Giants!
bigkat15 said September 24, 2007
By the way he was black too! I think you can see by the fans' votes for the 75th anniversary team that the fans that are knowledgable and love football in this town know what your about and respect you for it.
Please don't ever lose that passion. I love seeing you on the field smiling and having fun.
Daemon said September 24, 2007
We all know we have to work twice as hard to get any real respect from these traditional supremacists - who can't help but see the world from a "white" point of view, but they mean no harm. They just don't understand the plight of the black male. We're with ya Donovan! And thanks for being a really big inspiration! Just win the big game! And then you can say anything you want, Terry Bradshaw will eat humble pie - but he and others like him still won't change - they'll continue attempting to sweep race issues under the rug and we'll continue to speak :)
mdrusedum said September 24, 2007
EmmVeePee said September 24, 2007
Yet Favre gets the attention.
They try to twist everything and put it onto you, cough, Terrell. They probably do it because you're not some weak yes-man, and they know you'll speak your mind and opinion. And when you disagree with them, they demonize you - for more publicity.
Keep up the good work.
ISingh said September 24, 2007
racers7 said September 24, 2007
GR8BLAZERFAN said September 24, 2007
Great game yesterday :)
Gr8blazerfan
chiba2 said September 24, 2007
rosiro said September 24, 2007
I wish you and your team the very best!
Phillyforever said September 24, 2007
drvaughn said September 24, 2007
sam5142 said September 24, 2007
shawn19 said September 24, 2007
HeadSlap said September 23, 2007
You put on a clinc today in how to play the position. For the past 9 years, you've been putting on a clinic for how a professional athlete should conduct himself. Real fans applaud you for both.
ERupert said September 23, 2007
jmdaly1 said September 23, 2007
Let the talk roll off your back. I see more 5 jerseys than any other at home games - you are appreciated. Keep fighting!
ddaj6775 said September 23, 2007
I've read and heard all the comments from different pre/post game shows concerning your feelings on race in the NFL with regards to being a "black" quarterback and although I'm not much of an Eagles fan ( sorry from Texas so I'm partial to the Cowboys) however I am a fan of football period. People are going to talk about you whether you win or lose. Whether you play when your body feels like crap, whether you're tired or just fed up with fickle Philly fans booing when you know you're giving your all, those things aren't the issue. The issue is you TOLD THE TRUTH. People have a problem with that. The fact that you didn't sugar coat what you had to say about how differently black quartebacks are treated is a problem for people who act like it's all good and there is no race issues in sports and that black players in general aren't treated differently in the media. You put it on blast and the ones who have an issue with it let it be THEIR issue. You aren't the first black quarteback to feel that way you just chose not to give the typical media/publicity friendly answer to the questions asked and I applaud you for that, take your stand and stand behind what you say because either way you will be talked about. Now that being said go out there and just do what you do. Do Donovan, be #5, be a leader, stand your ground and hold your head up when they talk about you because when they talk it's not about you per se it's about an issue that no one wants to own, you are just the one in the spotlight that they target for having an opinion and being man enough to speak on it. As a black person we know that race is an issue even today and those in denial are the ones making the issue out of the fact that something about Race in the NFL was put on blast. Now let them talk and maybe if enough people talk about the real issue of how Black Quarterbacks are treated in the media as opposed to White Quarterbacks then something can be done to resolve the real issue. But like you said this isn't a perfert world and they gain more air time when they talk about YOU and try to put YOU down because as long as they are discussing Donavan Mcnabb, they never have to deal with the real issue at hand.
Thats just my opinion on the matter and my opinion and fifty cents will get you a bag of chips lol. Take care and do your thing. Now although I am a die hard Cowboys fan I do wish you all the best this season and pray that you stay healthy so that you can really shut those critics mouths.
Blessings & Growth
-Darla
Eagles2007 said September 23, 2007
Donovan McNabb - Absolutely flawless performance! Perfection!
Offensive line: A+
Brian Westbrook: Simply amazing! One of the top three running backs in the N.F.L.
Play calling: Outstanding.
Kevin Curtis: Where's Stallworth? Who cares?
alxsct083174 said September 23, 2007
bhmcg3 said September 23, 2007
I've never sent a letter to an athlete in my life, but for some reason I just feel like offering you some encouragement. I grew up in Phila but have lived in the NYC area for a long while. I've remained an Eagles fan all my life. One thing living in NYC has made clear to me is how embarassing the reputation of Phila fans can be. From where i sit 90 miles to the north, their supposed "toughness" is so clearly a collective chip on the shoulder that masks a self-defeating sense of inadequacy. (Don't mean to start psycho-babbling, but the fans' behavior doesn't seem to be about what's happening on the field...it's almost like they act like wounded children.)
It might sound strange but ever since you've taken over the team I've been telling my family/friends in Philly that we have the makings of a DYNASTY! I still believe that you and Coach Reid can not only win the Super Bowl, you can win SEVERAL of them.
One of the biggest reasons i hope this happens is that it might forever turn the tide for Phila sports fans in general. My friends from Pittsburgh love their Steelers come hell or high water and i think that's directly related to the dynasty they experienced in the 70s.
I guess this is just a long-winded way of saying, don't give up on Philadelphia...I think you could very well hold the keys to fundamentally reshaping the way an entire city feels about itself...no pressure! ;-)
HANG IN THERE!
B
glcatv said September 23, 2007
exploorer64 said September 23, 2007
funny you bring up the race issue now...Thought you were past that?
Philadelphia has been a pioneer in football/race relations.
We begged Vermeil to put Johnnie Walton in when Jaworski was sucking it up.Chants for Walton were loud and we were white & black guys begging for change!
Randall came in and was awesome we loved him until he sucked it up...his time passed,Ray Rhodes (we loved his attitude and great defensive Mind,came in and we won a playoff game(1st in years).Then Andy picked You to lead us!!! You need to brush up on your black quarterbak history here in Philly...We care about who leads us...as long as he Leads Us!Seems you have issues with yourself not the fans....Be the 1st Quarterback to lead us to a Super Bowl Victory...We will love you as we once did...then you can answer the one question all others (black or white) have never been asked before you...how does it feel to be the 1st Eagles Quarterback to WIN The SUPER BOWL?
gr8choice said September 23, 2007
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JadenJones said September 24, 2007
paladin2002 said September 25, 2007
gforce3 said September 25, 2007
Judith said September 25, 2007
I pray for you and I like you just the way you are. God made you special. Don;t let others put you down.
God Bless, Judy Cohen
wildebill said September 25, 2007
Kevinlt said September 25, 2007
From: Kevin L. Thomas, Karing Living Together
Dear Mr. McNabb:
In reference to your recent comments two week ago, there was proof in the New York game. Manning was not productive; the second quarterback was heavy set and received a leg injury. The third string quarterback came in and moved the team. The receivers were dropping the ball that was thrown right to their hands.
There was no mention about the ability of the third string quaarterbacks' ability to move the team forward and the receivers dropping the ball. There was endless communicating about the white quarterbacks' lack of completion but constant stroking and accolades of past achievement. There is often bias in communicating as far as ability and overall position turn
racers7 said September 25, 2007
eaglesfan1976 said September 25, 2007
jobrienjr said September 26, 2007
First of all, thanks for being a genuine person. You always have been and I'm proud of the work you've done in Philadelphia outside of footall. You are a class-act, and I truly believe you will ultimately lead this city to a Superbowl.
There are far to many haters in this city, and frankly, life is too short. #5 is my QB. Here's an email I shared with my vey extensive family after Sunday:
To all of you McNabb haters, i hope you enjoy your cold dish of crow. And, yeah, I heard ALL of you gasping when he went down in the first half with what looked like a serious injury.
The guy is entitled to an opinion, and how soon the flip-flopping fans in this town forget about the remarks that Rush Limbaugh made in 2003.
Shame on you....Shame on you....Shame on you....
Like Mike Schmidt, Eric Lindros, Charles Barkley, and A.I. (who I will agree, I still hate, so I guess I'm a hypocrite too), Philly has refused to embrace our stars for their lack of commitment to our city. And then they leave and laugh at us, while driving to the bank.
Its becoming more and more disgusting to me to have to endure criticism of McNabb by family, friends and customers, as people have such short memories.
History Lesson:
Scoring 4 touchdowns on a broken ankle
4th & 26
16 seconds vs. Dallas complete to Pinky
NFC Championship Game 2001 11-5
NFC Championship Game 2002 12-4
NFC Championship Game 2003 12-4
NFC Championship Game 2004 13-3 Superbowl
I can remember going to the Vet when we were 3-13. To all of you McNabb bashers, where were you then? Too tired from the Villanova game the day before?
Last time I checked Tommy's not a 100% passser, and neither are both Mannings. Ever consider that when McNabb throws a ball in the dirt that the sub-par receivers he launched a missle at forgot their route?
In case your brain is still foggy, in the weeks last yearb efore Donvan was hurt, he put up numbers in passing & rushing that were better than any other QB in the league...EVER!!!
And you want to release him and send him to Chicago so we get back to 3-13 next year, while McNabb wins the Superbowl for Chi-town?
No thanks...
Michelle and I have just had the fortune to lock up 4 Games a year Season Tickets with a neighbor for the next 10 years.
I'm hoping that McNabb will retire here so I get to watch his wonder on the field for at least the next 3-4 years.
McNabb is my QB, thank you...
Peace,
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KathyR replied September 27, 2007
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Jenney713 said September 26, 2007
I think it is tough to step outside of yourself and really understand what its like to be a black man. It took a lot of thinking for me to get myself to finally understand this. To be criticized pretty much every moment in public. And for someone like McNabb, despite talent, to rise above this and go as far as he can.
This HBO show helped me understand better about him... I dont think he has anything to apologize about! It is pretty sad that he has to even address it!
Hammer3 replied September 26, 2007
VAEaglebabe said September 26, 2007
It's funny how people can criticize without walking a mile in your shoes.
You have brought more class, more excitement, and more possibility to Philly sports than any one in my lifetime. Thank you.
Mike_D said September 26, 2007
All you were doing was pointing out a fact - and as a black QB you know a LITTLE bit better than white upper-middle class columnists about how it feels to be a black QB. In the current climate we live in, instead of simply acknowledging your point and moving on, people are quick to put up their guards and say "No way! We've advanced so far and are so tolerant that it's not posible - he's WRONG!"
Personally, I have no idea what you've gone through, so why wouldn't I accept your points at face value?
Now the real controversy here should be: Why does Brian Westbrook not get the love LT does? That's the real travesty!
KathyR replied September 27, 2007
cfalzonee said September 26, 2007
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paladin2002 said September 26, 2007
"I really feel like myself, black or white quarterbacks, we all go through something because that is the life of a quarterback,'' Young said Wednesday, according to the Nashville Tennessean. "You have to be able to handle all the pressure and you have to be able to handle the losses and you have to be able to handle the media saying this about you.
"If you can't handle it, then you have to get off that position and go play something else."
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Some people that I know, interpreted this as Young disagreeing with Donovan.
Now read this, from the "High and Inside" section of the Philadelphia Daily News:
After a 31-14 win over New Orleans on "Monday Night Football"-a game win which he threw two touchdown passes-Young had this to say:
"That's what I wanted to show the world, that I can throw the ball. It's not all about Vince Young is a mobile quarterback. Vince Young is a QUARTER-BACK. That's it"
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Maybe he agrees with Donovan after all?
SunshineBarbie said September 27, 2007
I am sorry to say that I am a Tampa Bay fan, but I follow the whole NFL. So when I saw your 'no apoligies' press conference, I felt I had to say my part.
Hammer3 said September 26, 2007
Jtoddy25 said September 27, 2007
philip said September 27, 2007
The media is always trying to sell something. I think we all should really just focus on Barry Bonds and his steroid problem.
Seriously though, with Donovan, the Eagles have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl than they ever had. If you want to see them win it in your lifetime you had better get behind him. If you dont like Donovan or what he has to say buy a Romo Jersey.
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duke07 said September 27, 2007
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Mlucas said September 28, 2007
Man you just keep up with your great playing, you will go down in the NFL history books. And you keep your freedom of speech... As you may have notice that I have... The ones who gets tired of hearing it all are the ones who are the problem.. Don't know.. maybe its just me... Take great care Donvan and hope you have a great season... Oh let me say... I see your numbers... Are you Black? hmmm lol.. I guess I am little bit color blind... Mark
huttdawg100 said October 03, 2007
So, in response to Donovan McNabb's comments about race: he could not be more right. Merril Hoge of ESPN has ripped Michael Vick, Donovan McNabb, and Vince Young for a "run first" mentality. My issue with this is: these guys have always been running quarterbacks and it has worked. The problem with the three quarterbacks is not that they can't throw; it's the fact that they have nobody to throw to. Where is Donovan McNabb's Marvin Harrison and Edgerrin James? Where is Vince Young's go to receiver? Over the past ten years, McNabb has done more with less than anybody, but Merril Hoge and Mark Schlereth, two "quarterback gurus", continue to rip him apart.
Philly fans need to get it together! What confuses me is the fact that Andy Reid seems to be blameless in this entire situation. They start 1-3 and nobody is looking at Andy Reid as the captain of this ship. No; it's all Donovan McNabb's fault. Apparently Andy Reid is an innocent bystander. If Donovan McNabb had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne as his first and second receivers, we might be looking at him as a three time MVP. Where is his power running game to compliment his throwing ability? Why is Andy Reid getting a free ride? Moreover, last year Tom Jackson pointed out the fact that when Garcia took over, the run-pass ratio evened out. They were throwing more when McNabb was in at QB, but they were running more when Garcia took the steering wheel.
Philly fans: if McNabb goes down, Andy Reid should go down with him.
Mac 5: Childress, Adrian Peterson and the Vikings will be waiting on you.
suzukijones77 said September 23, 2007
I pray that the footbal gods bless the NFL with more pocket passers and the vertical game. Hang in there, I give you props on your stats and your game. Dont look back keeps moving forward to second place in the division, Go Cowboys.
JohnHTobin said September 22, 2007
You don't have to do "a little bit extra". All you have to do is do your job, and that is to win! Or, put your team in the best position to win. Nothing more, nothing less!
I don't care if you're black, white, purple, red or green.
No wait! Yes I do! I hate you because of your color. I hate you for the color you wear - Eagles Green! I am a life-long Giant's fan - a season ticket holder for 30 years - and I blead blue! I hate everything green - whether it's Jet's green or Eagle's green. That's the color I hate.
But you think I and other NFL fans, sportscasters, reporters don't like you because of your color. Grow up! Stop playing the race card!
You are criticized on the air, in the press, in bars, in our living rooms - because you didn't complete a certain pass, because you didn't get a 1st down at a critical point, because you didn't see the open man - the very same things I rage about with Eli Manning.
Every QB in every NFL city is criticized when the team doesn't win - and even when they do win! It comes with the territory! Everybody get's a certain abount of criticism on their job. You make about 200 times the average salary of the people who come to your home games - not to mention your endorsements. Yet you think they don't like you because of your skin color.
If the fans, reporters, newspaper writers criticize you, it's because of your play! Not because of the skin you're hiding behind!
I don't care if you're Peyton, Montana, Elway, Marino, Simms, Unitas (all white QB's if you haven't noticed), if you engage in dog fighting - you deserve to go to jail! If you take drugs or steriods, you deserve to be suspended and permantently put out of the game. If you commit a crime, break the law, shoot somebody, gamble (either on or against your team), or in any other way fail to abide by the rules and/or regulations stated by your employer - then you deserve to be punished - and criticized harshly!
Your "criticism" comments seem to me to be veiled references to several black NFL players who have recently been suspended, fined, charged or otherwise embarassed their families, fans, teams and owners. Your efforts would be better used in addressing these players (and soon-to-be ex-players?), and coaching them to exhibit better behavior and more self-control.
This is not about black and white - it's about right and wrong. And Donovan, you are wrong!
By the way - you are a college educated man. To quote, "It's something that I've been a part of and other quarterbacks before me and and after me have been a part of." Since when did you obtain the ability to see into the future?
kdawg01 said September 20, 2007
donwill said September 20, 2007
Situation #2 minorities complained that they can't get home loans as easily as everyone else. They cried discrimination and threatened to sue. So they changed the rules and gave them the loans. Now they are threatening to sue because lenders gave the minorities loans they claim that the lenders knew they couldn't pay back. Do we see a pattern here or a universal excuse for a hand-out?
Pinkpanthrrr replied September 20, 2007
donwill replied September 21, 2007
What should the whites do? Rent 2,000 bases drive to a Philly game and protest? Wait a minute, not possible because we have jobs and a spontaneous protest march would jeopardize the jobs we have. Which is something some people can't relate to.
McNabb said he comments without thinking, a true replica of his thinking on the field. FAILURE TO PLAN LEADS TO WHAT? THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES!!!
One more stat for you---- 2005: The Pro Bowl is marked by history, when Donovan McNabb led a NFC Quarterback group of Daunte Culpepper and Michael Vick into the Pro Bowl. It is the first time that all 3 QB's elected for the NFC or AFC were African Americans. What do 2 of these 3 have in common? They have been arrested and convicted of illegal activites. So how do I encourage my son to act like these great role models?
margeschott replied September 21, 2007
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Up2NoGood said September 21, 2007
jonhyquest said September 22, 2007
Come on! Be a man!
First, improve you completions, then play the whole season (you weak), also stop crying thinking about your future (that's all this s** about beacuse you see Kolb coming) and finally do what Garcia accomplished.... Improve your teammates, not focusing on been the "Prima Donna" of Philadelphia Eagles!
wyen78 replied October 23, 2007
Drew Bledsoe got heat for being a statue in the pocket but did you once hear anyone say oh he's a white QB, no, he was just a QB who couldn't get out of the pocket. I can barely comprehend the rest of your poorly written post, it kind of meanders around and doesn't make much sense. Go back to watching old 80's cartoons on your couch while calling a professional athlete who threw 4 tds on a broken ankle...weak.
underboss2005 said October 05, 2007
Donovan, play well and you won't get picked on. Simple as that. Terrell Owens said two years ago that you were an overrated QB, and Owens, a black man, was correct. This is a matter that needs no debate. McNabb's foolish, crybaby comments are incorrect, and a slap in the face to black athletes who actually did face racial inequality.
Who led the Eagles to the playoffs last year after McNabb laid yet another egg? Jeff Garcia. Who was shown the door in the offseason while McNabb was given the job again? Jeff Garcia. And, who's the starting QB for the suddenly-strong Tampa Bay Buccaneers? 37-year-old Jeff Garcia.
Stop crying, McNabb. You are mediocre, and you are wrong.
I will say this, though. Coaches with felonious punks as children get more abuse from the media than coaches with good kids. Right, Andy Reid?
underboss2005@yahoo.com
PatCsaintsfan said October 06, 2007
I saw the interview on HBO and I just want to say that even though I am a saints fan, I still admire the way you play your game and the way you handle the press. Please keep up the good work and I will keep rooting for you except when you play the SAINTS. Stay strong in everything you believe in.
Pat C.
from Wilkes-Barre Pa.
AnnyMarie said October 11, 2007
I have spent a lot of time reading the comments related to an article written about your HBO interview. I would first like to express my sympathy - many things that have been said are fairly abusive. In America of all places, you would think we could all talk about our experiences without such uproar. I think you have been a professional football player and the world could do worse than emulate your example. Thank you for sharing your thoughts - it is only through discussion that we can create change.
AQ
wyen78 said October 23, 2007
As an asian kid growing up in Cortland NY (45 min from the Carrier Dome, I was in Highschool when you were playing ball up there, now I'm in philly) I always felt extra pressure to do well in school cause if I didn't kids would taunt that they did better than the asian kid (it may have been pressure I put on myself but it was there nonetheless). After a while even the compliments I'd receive for being "smart" didn't really feel like compliments it just felt like that's all they saw of me, some smart asian kid. I can't tell you how many times I've been asked if I knew martial arts....yes I did, but answering yes to that question always made me very uneasy, cause I knew they were only asking me cause of my race.
For people to say race is no longer an issue in america (and I've only ever heard white people proclaim this), do you read the newspaper? People are putting up nooses like it's a holiday decoration, and I'm not just talking about Jenna, there was another incident at Columbia University directed at a professor. When people talk about racism or racist remarks they are not saying that every single white person is racist. It is not a personal attack on you, but to pretend that there are no racist people in the US is silly and naive.
Again, for people who say all QBs are criticized, did you not even read McNabbs post above? He didn't say they didn't get criticized he saying that the critiques are different. I'm sure he doesn't feel that every criticism is a racist comment, just SOME of them. Like the NAACP saying he doesn't run enough, or Rush saying he's overrated, or Fred Ex calling him a company man. Perhaps McNabb feels this way because after being a stellar highschool QB a lot of schools wanted him to be a receiver or running back, they didn't think he could play the QB position.....why do you think that was? You don't have to spell it out, they thought he wasn't smart enough to do it. He was only recruited by 2 colleges to be a QB and I believe he chose Syracuse so that he'd be given an opportunity to be a pocket passer with good mobility rather than be an athlete who could also pass, plus the academics at Syracuse.
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corey0429 said January 09, 2008
I am a huge Philly fan. I have only been a fan since your rookie year though. The reason is becuase you play there and now I love you the Eagles and the organization. I think we have one of the best head coaches and the best supporting staff in the nfl. But what fan doesnt? I wanted to comment on your most recent blog about bringing in playmakers. I do agree that we do need some more playmakers than what we have now. You have been great as a playmaker, but you have been dealing with injury more often than any other player on the team. Do you think you will be healthy enough to play the whole season next year to take advantage of a Reggie Brown, Kevin Curtis, and Brian Westbrook. Surely these "big 3" perform much better with OUR qb in the game. I do beleive that we do need a big deep threat. That possession reciever who can do it all when you throw the ball deep. I also believe that the offense needs to take a more balanced route to really effectively use #36 like the Chargers use L.T. Also every Philly fan can agree that our defense needs to get better. Our d-line has gotten extremely better. We have to soon address the age issue with the freak. But Patterson, Bunkley, and Cole are great. Spikes is a great addition to the linebacker corps but he can't play forever. Gaither showed great playmaking ability this season taking over for Trotter. But even the mad scientist said his linebacker corps was a work in progress. Soon we have to plan for the replacement of Dawkins. He is so great that I dont think he can ever be "replaced." I would love to see some defensive playmakers come in, preferably from the draft. I would also like to see the organization go get Javon Walker. We all know that he doesn't want to be in Denver anymore and I think that he would be a great fit in the offense and he would also provide you with a receiver who could be a deep threat and a excellent route runner. I'm sure you have your own list of who you would like to bring in and I hope that we do get some playmakers in the off season. If we get only one playmaker all off season I would hope that it be in the special teams area as we were horrible on that area of the game this year. I am looking forward to the off season and the start of next season. I would love to see our team get back to its dominance over the NFC EAST and return to super bowl form. I hate seeing us finish last in the division, but I hate seeing the cowboys win it even more. Especially since that former "eagle" plays there.
Mcnabb551 said January 14, 2008
winko19 said January 16, 2008
I listen to the radio and read the papers and it really frustrates me to hear the fans in this city kill you one week and love you the next. It's also ashame that some of them want you gone. Knowing some of your teammates and talking to them, they know how important you are to this franchise and city. Everyone said you had to have been upset when they drafted Kevin. Look at Aaron Rogers. There's a guy who expected his chance and he could retire before his predecessor. Anyway, the way I see it is that you are going to have an MVP season. Your knee will be healthy, your hand will be healthy and you'll come in to training camp at 100%. I wish you and the team the best of luck. Take care of yourself and your family and we'll see you next season.
PHILLYSTAR said January 21, 2008
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